that's why again, governor schwarzenegger, i want to thank you for getting this started. if we don't do it won't happen. >> secretary can you talk about the reaction. i come out of the goodness of my heart, recently sent to the senate press secretary in the two senators of pennsylvania, senator to me and senator casey of the two men themselves and their staffs at a softball game. they had a good time, they had a few beers, they put it on their face but page on both of them told me they got absolute vituperative remarks from their supporters. how could you possibly can so that the enemy like that? the senator from the road state, unit think that they would be a certain common interest here, but that was the reaction of the voters. they'll come you have your hand out. anyone who wants to take that, take it. >> i think what is happening right now is who got a combination of a period of 30 years really, where parties have lost so much of their power and their authority. a modest happen in the name of reform, churchill once said that the best argument against democracy is five